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Post by Tarzan Smith on Aug 26, 2013 18:55:10 GMT -5
I must confess I haven't got anything prepared, mostly because I don't particularly see that there's much that I don't know about the two of you or how you played.
For the record, I had no idea who either of you were before my ouster, in fact, the only identity I actually knew was Brenda's.
Zane, to be honest, I can't see a good reason to vote for you. In all fairness, based solely on what I've seen from your responses to the other jurors, it seems highly unlikely that you could have come within a mile of the finals without Curtis helping you every step of the way. Moreover, your decision to lie to myself, Allie, and Laura was one of the most head-scratchingly bad strategic moves that I have ever seen. You could have left us alone and let us get picked off, and nothing bad would have come of it, but instead you deliberately chose to approach us and lie to us, and pretty badly at that. Why did you do that? Was it because you wanted to be cruel? Or, do you just genuinely not understand that angering three jurors for no reason is generally considered a pretty foolish move?
Chris, it seems like you were the one who pushed for me to go instead of Allie. Obviously you knew who both of us were, so I'm curious as to how much impact that had on your decision making. Was it a personal attack against me? Do you just like Allie more than me? Or am I more of a threat than Allie? If so, why?
Thank you both, and good luck.
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Post by Chris Daugherty on Aug 26, 2013 22:38:42 GMT -5
Chris, it seems like you were the one who pushed for me to go instead of Allie. Obviously you knew who both of us were, so I'm curious as to how much impact that had on your decision making. Was it a personal attack against me? Do you just like Allie more than me? Or am I more of a threat than Allie? If so, why?
Pushing for you to go over Allie was a combination of a few things, none of them having to do with you being you. I did USE the idea of you being possibly a bigger challenge threat to help convince people, but that's not why I chose you over her
A huge part of my plan involved Allie's idol. She had hinted publicly that she had an idol, but I was sure she was bluffing. She claimed she got a universal brown chest, but I knew Jeff had a universal rainbow key. The universal chest would've been rainbow as well. SO, after finding out for sure that Allie's idol was a fake idol, I still absolutely needed her in the game for the vote against Jeff to work. I was already planning the split vote plan then, so Allie had to stay over you in the revote in order for that to work
With Allie in the game the round after, I pushed my Vireo group to split the votes 4-2 against Allie and Laura, justttt in case her idol was real. If there wasn't that idol paranoia there, we never would have split the vote, and my plan wouldn't have succeeded, so that was entirely crucial. I was able to convince them to split the vote to be safe, and then myself and Zane did not vote for Allie like planned, and instead got together with Allie/Laura to vote for Jeff, making it 4-2-2
That was the reasoning behind it all really. It was more about keeping Allie and her idol bluff in than getting you out to be honest. That plan had depended on it, and it worked out just how I wanted it to
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Post by Zane Knight on Aug 26, 2013 23:16:25 GMT -5
Why did you do that? Was it because you wanted to be cruel? Or, do you just genuinely not understand that angering three jurors for no reason is generally considered a pretty foolish move?
I do not think you fully know what happened that round. I did not approach you three looking to work with you. Allie approached me asking for me to flip because she thought I was on the bottom of Vireo. So I played along with her saying Ill flip because I thought she had a real idol. I saw this as my chance to flush out the idol because she offered me a deal saying Ill give you my idol next round if you vote with us this round. She said you need to have your 6 split the votes in order for this to work . Us six did split just in case Allie was lying to me and played the idol so I told Allie yeah they are splitting. So you guys thought it would be 4 votes ashley 3 for Allie 2 for Tarzan and Ashley would go home. But if Allie was telling the truth saying she would give me the idol that means that she would not play it and it would be a three way tie and we would re vote and vote out Allie with the idol. Then we found out it was fake and for some reason changed the vote to you. If I had known it was fake the whole time I would not have lied to you guys I would have said no to working with you.
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